Thirty episodes ago, I put out what I presented as the first of a two-part crossover. In it, I interviewed Jeff Wood, presenter of the Talking Headways podcast and owner of the San Francisco-based transport consultancy the Overhead Wire, about public transport in the US.

The plan was always to switch sides in part two, so that Jeff would this time interview me. We recorded that a few months ago – but because of some sound quality issues (you’ll see) I’ve only just got around to editing it.

Anyway: here it is. This time, Jeff bombards me with questions about urban government, devolution, housing, transport policy, and, inevitably, Brexit. As I said, some of the quality is, er, not great, for which I can only blame myself. But I hope, if you can make out my words, you enjoy at least some of them.

Happy Easter, everyone.

The episode itself is below. You can subscribe to the podcast on AcastiTunes, or RSS. Enjoy.

Jonn Elledge is the editor of CityMetric. He is on Twitter as @jonnelledge and also has a Facebook page now for some reason. 

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