This is, like that Saved By the Bell where Jessie got addicted to drugs, another very special episode. 

Partly it’s because it’s, disappointingly, Stephanie-free. (For various boring travel-related reasons, I’m afraid it’s been pretty much impossible to get us into the same room at the same time this week.) But mostly it’s because of a sneaking suspicion that, in light of recent events, nobody much cares about things like metro maps and infrastructure right now. 

So instead, I’m joined by a pair of colleagues from the New Statesman politics desk, Stephan Bush and Julia Rampen, to discuss the big news of the week: President-elect Donald Trump. How is the rust belt like the north of England? Is it economics, culture, or simply racism that cause rural areas to vote differently from urban ones? And most importantly – are we all going to die?  

The episode itself is below. You can subscribe to the podcast on AcastiTunes, or RSS. Enjoy.

We’ll be back soon, with our normal co-host, our normal producer and our normal sponsor.